Jeff out of this list ..how many do you think have no funny business going on trying to be on the elbow plane and how many are on a true elbow plane through the business end from 9 to 3 ( impact zone )

Excellent post Yoda truly showing the difference between shoulder and elbow planes!!!

Yoda

I don't know what point you are trying to make.

I only know that there are significant variations in how golfers look in their late downswing. There are golfers like Toms/Furyk/Hogan who have their right elbow tucked well into their side with a significantly bent right elbow at impact. Then, there are golfers like Tiger Woods who lets his right elbow move well away from his right hip pre-impact and that causes his right elbow to be be straighter. TW has less plane shift than DT.

In general, I think that most golfers have a shallower clubshaft plane at impact than the angle of the TSP.

See the next photo.



I have noticed that most professional golfers, irrespective of their end-backswing clubshaft position, tend to shallow their clubshaft angle in the downswing so that they reach the delivery position on a shallower plane - roughly 45 degrees (+/- 5 degrees). I generally never see professional golfers coming steeply down the TSP line.

Jeff.

Jeff,
Please read 10-6-A. Tell me which pics are the "flattest normal plane"?

Answer the question :confused1 Then pontificate.:golf:

mb6606

You wrote-: "Please read 10-6-A. Tell me which pics are the "flattest normal plane"?

What are you trying to get at? I have no idea.

In a general sense, the flattest normal plane at impact is dictated by the club - it is the plane that allows the lie of the club to be "normal" (sole of the club to be horizontal to the ground) at impact, so that the the heel of the club doesn't hit the ground first.

Jeff.

Plane Shifts of the Best
 

More thanks, Jeff.

Could you now offer a 'from the Top' photo comparison of Tiger and Sergio? Ideally, the sequence (and the lines you draw) will differentiate Top, Start Down, Downstroke, Release and Impact.

Thanks!

:salut:

Garcia versus Woods
 

Sergio Garcia




Tiger Woods




Jeff.

duplicate post

2-D Pictures taken off plane conceal the truth.
Best way to truly understand the swing plane is build yourself a swing plane as in the book. Set the plane per the photos in 10-6 and swing away.