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Bigwill 08-06-2006 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Weightshift
Thanks for the link but I see no such evidence here: http://sonicboomgolf.com/PhilMickels...eSwingKeys.php
No evidence here of what you speak.

Breakdown of the materials of the clubhead is more likely to be due to faulty components of same. Do you remember when John Daly first appeared on the scene and talked of the number of clubheads that he had broken, and the move to Kelvar if memory serves me correctly. None of that today. Maybe someone here with math/physics can calculate the effective momentum of the clubhead at impact and compare it to the mass of the golfball (it has no momentum, being stationary) and show just how wrong your claim is.
The golf ball has no momentum, but it has inertia that the clubhead needs to overcome. And the clubhead loses speed when it impacts the golf ball. I thought that was pretty much universally understood (as far as golf nuts are concerned); I'm not sure I understand what you're disputing.

Weightshift 08-06-2006 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigwill
The golf ball has no momentum, but it has inertia that the clubhead needs to overcome. And the clubhead loses speed when it impacts the golf ball. I thought that was pretty much universally understood (as far as golf nuts are concerned); I'm not sure I understand what you're disputing.
In any such collision both objects are affected. I'm disputing the claim that "if you watch the videos that show closeups at impact, you can clearly see the direction of the club being altered". I've not seen this in any of the videos, and more importantly I wouldn't expect to see it. To my knowledge it isn't even mentioned in Homer's writings, at least not in the 6th Edition.

Bigwill 08-06-2006 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Weightshift
In any such collision both objects are affected. I'm disputing the claim that "if you watch the videos that show closeups at impact, you can clearly see the direction of the club being altered". I've not seen this in any of the videos, and more importantly I wouldn't expect to see it. To my knowledge it isn't even mentioned in Homer's writings, at least not in the 6th Edition.
Ok, I understand. I don't agree, but I understand. No argument with both objects being affected. That's kind of my point. I don't remember whether or not Homer wrote about it; my book's been destroyed, so I don't have access, and it's been a long time since I've read it. But if Homer didn't write about it, it dosen't make it necessarily untrue, does it?

Weightshift 08-07-2006 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigwill
Ok, I understand. I don't agree, but I understand. No argument with both objects being affected. That's kind of my point. I don't remember whether or not Homer wrote about it; my book's been destroyed, so I don't have access, and it's been a long time since I've read it. But if Homer didn't write about it, it dosen't make it necessarily untrue, does it?
If it was significant, I have the feeling that he would have mentioned it. I think he was that sort of guy. Didn't he spend 28 years researching all this stuff. Maybe he should have been home more often making babies as his TGM successors:) When the ball compresses on the clubface, the clubface compresses too but I believe it is insignificant in comparison to the ball compression, especially with today's harder clubface surfaces.

Sonic_Doom 08-15-2006 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
There are two perspectives, one of force, and one of the clubhead.
What's the point here Ed? Force was never part of the low point discussion.

Low point concerns the ball in relation to the orbiting clubhead.

CW

EdZ 08-15-2006 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Millrat
What's the point here Ed? Force was never part of the low point discussion.

Low point concerns the ball in relation to the orbiting clubhead.

CW
See 1-L-15

Sonic_Doom 08-16-2006 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
See 1-L-15
Do you understand my question/point? :rolleyes:

Perspective is irrelevant.

Sonic_Doom 08-30-2006 10:28 PM
Not clear yet,
 
Yoda, you seemed to miss out on most of this thread topic. I still want to understand what/where low point is wrt a ball on a tee.


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