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swingingfrank 02-26-2005 08:09 PM

Extensor action for dummies
 
The dummy being me.I'm working on a hitting motion,and cant seem to comprehend how I'm supposed to do this while bending the back elbow at the same time.It seems like opposite actions.Type real slow,because I'm having trouble understanding TGM. :oops: :-k ](*,)

mgjordan 02-26-2005 08:33 PM

The right arm wants to stay straight going back. The reason it bends is because it is 'attached' to the left arm when you take your grip. You can keep a nice wide extension without collapsing the right elbow inward toward you.

Hunter 02-26-2005 09:40 PM

Re: Extensor action for dummies
 
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Originally Posted by swingingfrank
The dummy being me.I'm working on a hitting motion,and cant seem to comprehend how I'm supposed to do this while bending the back elbow at the same time.It seems like opposite actions.Type real slow,because I'm having trouble understanding TGM. :oops: :-k ](*,)

This is a difficult concept at first. To make the understanding a bit easier get yourself a rope. Grip it with a split hand grip. Pull the part of the rope between your hands tight, then take your bending right arm backward, upward and inward on plane.

Do this in short motions back and forth with eyes open, then eyes closed to develop the feel.

Forever Hitting,
Hunter

swingingfrank 02-27-2005 01:13 AM

Thanks Hunter,I'll give that a shot tommorrow.It seems to make sense.It does seem to involve alot of tension.Are you feeling that in your swing?

P.S.MG,thanks also.

Hunter 02-27-2005 01:27 AM

No tension, just stretching. Refer to 6-B-1-D

tincup2004 02-27-2005 01:15 PM

video
 
Here is a video from that should lift some of the fog on EA. You can also do a search on the various other TGM forums for previous discussions on EA.

In regards to tension, I feel it at the #1 pressure point when I apply EA during a hitting procedure. When Swinging, I feel the tension at the #2 pressure point.

http://www.chuckevansgolf.com/media/...on_drill-1.mov

Anonymous 02-27-2005 01:27 PM

In addition to the lower body maintaining extensor action in the left arm during the startdown in the traditional true swinging procedure....the right arm swing can maintain the same left arm action...as they say, there is more than one way to skin a cat....

DG

swingingfrank 02-27-2005 02:24 PM

Thanks all,I think I understand it now.It just feels really weird.

jim_0068 02-28-2005 12:59 AM

extensor action for dummies:

the pulling of the left thumb by the right hand to keep the left arm straight throughout the swing.

How's that?

swingingfrank 03-01-2005 12:40 AM

Still foggy but working on it.Just cant get the feel with a club without tensing up.

jim_0068 03-01-2005 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by swingingfrank
Still foggy but working on it.Just cant get the feel with a club without tensing up.

lean the feel WITHOUT A CLUB.

Take an imaginary grip and make sure that left left is in the cup of the right hand grip.

Now simply pull that left thumb with your "cup" in your hand hand to the top or the end depending if you are hitting or swinging.

nicklin 03-01-2005 07:56 PM

are we talking about the pulling only with the left hand/arm or pulling and pushing.the pushing being with the right hand/arm?

EdZ 03-01-2005 09:20 PM

See the EdZ drills in the drills section - use that right hand to 'push away' from center - on PP#1 - the base of our right hand against the base of the left thumb.


One of the best images is from Ben Doyle - like you were pulling on a sweater sleeve - a gentle pull.

swingingfrank 03-03-2005 01:07 AM

Ahhh,I think that is the reason I am confused.Is the feeling of pushing down wth the right hand or pullng up?

Hunter 03-03-2005 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by swingingfrank
Ahhh,I think that is the reason I am confused.Is the feeling of pushing down wth the right hand or pullng up?

I know it is confusing. It is using the right arm with the #1 and #3pp's to pull(stretch the left arm). Remember this stretch is always below plane.

It is not a pull up. Try to pull the club out of your left hand with your right hand, below plane.

Homer Kelley 6-B-1-D"Stretching the left arm through the #3pp gives the same action as pulling on both ends of a rope. That is, it pulls both the Left Arm and the clubshaft tautly in a straight line."...."However improperly executed, it can cause Clubhead Throwaway. In which case, use only #1 pp and pull on the left thumb to then hold at lease the Left arm in-line and retain Power Package structural rigidity"

I agree Ben's drill with the jacket is great. Put on a jacket without putting your arm in the left sleeve. Grab the end of the sleeve with your right thumb and index finger. Stretch the sleeve with your right arm until it is taut. Now take that taut sleeve to the top and then back to both arms straight at follow through and keep repeating. Good Luck.

Forever Hitting,
Hunter

Hunter 03-03-2005 04:17 PM

[quote="rwh"]
Quote:

Originally Posted by swingingfrank
Ahhh,I think that is the reason I am confused.Is the feeling of pushing down wth the right hand or pullng up?

Quote:

The direction of the stretch is always toward the clubhead.
rwh,

This statement is correct only with zero Accumulator #3. Per 6-B-1-D first paragraph "Except with Zero Accumulator #3 the "stretch" direction is always Below Plane.

MizunoJoe 03-03-2005 04:35 PM

Hunter,

Also be aware that the Extensor Action used by most people here is the "compromised" version that Homer refers to in the 2nd paragraph of 6-B-1-D. In it's prefered form, it is done with PP #3, not PP #1.

swingingfrank 03-05-2005 06:42 PM

Thanks all,very helpful.Judging by my good results at the dome(sigh) today,I can see how this aspect of TGM is VERY important.

EdZ 03-14-2005 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
Hunter,

Also be aware that the Extensor Action used by most people here is the "compromised" version that Homer refers to in the 2nd paragraph of 6-B-1-D. In it's prefered form, it is done with PP #3, not PP #1.

How can PP3 be used unless there is zero #3 Accumulator? If the #3 pressure point is 'on plane', yet the stretch is 'below plane'?

Matt 03-19-2005 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by EdZ
Quote:

Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
Hunter,

Also be aware that the Extensor Action used by most people here is the "compromised" version that Homer refers to in the 2nd paragraph of 6-B-1-D. In it's prefered form, it is done with PP #3, not PP #1.

How can PP3 be used unless there is zero #3 Accumulator? If the #3 pressure point is 'on plane', yet the stretch is 'below plane'?

The stretch is 'below plane' because it is pulling the left arm. The left arm sets up on a 'steeper' plane than the sweetspot, so when you pull on the left arm you are pulling it 'below plane.'

EdZ 03-19-2005 11:37 AM

Yes, but how can you "use" pp3 for that below plane stretch, if it is not on the same plane. PP#1 however, is on that same, below plane stretch

IMO that 'below plane' stretch, the plane of that stretch, is THE plane to be focused on, for good reason - it most approximates the plane that FORCE is traveling on during the swing, and is in effect the turned shoulder plane, or rather parallel to it.

The plane of PP#1's travel.


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