LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Clubshaft orbit through the impact zone Thread: Clubshaft orbit through the impact zone View Single Post #99 01-18-2009, 11:40 PM Jeff Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Golfgnome When I use the term "relevance" it has nothing to do with your opinions regarding the golf swing. Your opinions regarding the golf swing are as relevant as any other forum member's opinions. What I find irrelevant are all your opinions regarding my attitude and motives (eg. allegations of arrogance or boorsishness or secret/unwholesome agendas). They may have relevance to you, but they have no relevance to golf swing issues. I never question the motives/attitudes of other forum members - I simply argue passionately about golf swing issues. If I disagree with another forum member who passionately argues on behalf of his personal opinion, I don't accuse him of arrogance or boorishness because he relentlessly pursues his argument. He is entitled to harbor strong personal opinions with as much intensity as I harbor personal opinions. You also stated-: "As I stated quite clearly before, you simply can't argue opinions which is clearly what you have done once again. If I present something that is factually incorrect then prove it wrong, otherwise accept the same treatment that you give others." This is bizarre. I only argue about opinions and not facts. If something is known to be factually correct, then I wouldn't waste my time arguing about that point. I only bother to argue about "opinions", which I think are not factually correct. I have never complained about other forum members treating my personal opinions in the same way. I expect other forum members to question the legitimacy of all my opinions regarding the golf swing, and I never resent them questioning my personal "opinions". "Equally qualified". I find that concept meaningless. I judge a forum member's opinion based on the quality of his argument and not on the basis of whether he is supposedly qualified to harbor an opinion. I don't disqualify any forum member from expressing an opinion in this forum, and I don't judge the legitimacy of their opinion based on their "status", but solely on the logical strength of their argument. The main reason why I have been banned on other golf forums is because I unhesitatingly question every forum member's expressed opinion - irrespective of their "expert" status. I was banned from GolfWRX because I unceasingly questioned the legitimacy of Jim McLean's X-factor theory. I was banned from iseekgolfguru.com for unceasingly questioning an "expert"'s opinion to the dismay of other forum members who didn't like my constant questioning of Lagpressure's opinions (eg. questioning the legitimacy of Lagpressure's belief that one can reactivate PA#4 after impact and questioning his belief in a 5th power accumulator or questioning his belief that one should pull a club out of its orbit post-impact). I was banned from Brian Manzella's website because I questioned his authority. I have no regrets for unceasingly questioning the legitimacy of other forum members' expressed "opinions" regarding the golf swing. I think that the constant questioning, and requestioning, of all forum members opinions (without fear of consequences and without indulging in overt ad hominem attacks) is what a good golf discussion forum is all about - and that belief about an "open forum" that is free of restrictive rules doesn't only apply to me; it applies equally to all forum members who participate in the forum. Jeff. Jeff View Public Profile Find all posts by Jeff