BUt in the look look look picture posted above, if the shoulder s were not represented as straight, but instead as a curved or slight 'v' shape then both shoulders could be onplane. Now maybe it is not what actualy happens in the swing, but it is not a law of logic that both can't be onplane unless you assume a straight line across the shoulders.
BUt in the look look look picture posted above, if the shoulder s were not represented as straight, but instead as a curved or slight 'v' shape then both shoulders could be onplane. Now maybe it is not what actualy happens in the swing, but it is not a law of logic that both can't be onplane unless you assume a straight line across the shoulders.
Nope, extensor action causes the shoulder flexability to be stretched towards the plane line. Thus the right shoulder is not somehow being stretched backwards towards the inclined plane that it is required to leave at followthrough, its being stretched towards the base of the inclined plane. So the shoulder flexability isn't an arguement. I mean just picture it in your mind what that would look like - anyone with a slight imagination can see thats not whats happening and your arguement is propesterous.
BUt in the look look look picture posted above, if the shoulder s were not represented as straight, but instead as a curved or slight 'v' shape then both shoulders could be onplane. Now maybe it is not what actualy happens in the swing, but it is not a law of logic that both can't be onplane unless you assume a straight line across the shoulders.
I mean look....
Ungolf-like wouldn't you say ?
not only that, its unhuman and it ain't happening...lol
I mean really, is this what you and tongzilla recommend as the most important alignments?
not only that, its unhuman and it ain't happening...lol
I mean really, is this what you and tongzilla recommend as the most important alignments?
Cool pic Mathew, and exactly what I'm suggesting, although I'm not really bringing extensor action into it. Basically I think it is not ungolflike nor unhuman. To align your shoulders with your spine (which is pretty near the back of your torso, I actually think you probably need to make an effort to pull them back a bit, which is ungolflike). But we can agree to disagree if you like. I don't feel massively strongly about this, but I don't think you've provided a 'logical proof' that both shoulders cannot be onplane in the golf stroke!
Maybe from your pic you think I'm suggesting a backward curve of the shoulders, but I'm not, I'm suggesting a forward curve (that was what I saw in your diagram by the way - sometimes hard to tell with stick figures!)
And stop picking on Tongzilla! His list was really good!
Banging my head against the proverbial brick wall...
I crushed the idea of an onplane shoulder at followthrough and you both know it.... yet find yourselves unable to admit it. Of course both of you would let hell freeze over before that would happen. But your arguements are absolutely pathetically absurd!
Now your plan is to make Tongzilla, the bully act the victim. It kinda like the kid that beats up on other kids and eventually goes against one that beats his brains out and then wants sympathy.
I crushed the idea of an onplane shoulder at followthrough and you both know it.... yet find yourselves unable to admit it. Of course both of you would let hell freeze over before that would happen. But your arguements are absolutely pathetically absurd!
I think you should add a MWWWWHAA-HA-HA-HA to this for effect!