As a minor aside, giving 1300 to 1500 lessons per year gives one some insight into testing theory. Seeing this "theory" in application makes me a believer.
He has earned enough trust and respect through his research to deserve my trust. When I find something that he has suggested that doesn't work, my trust in his words may wane. But, until then...
Originally Posted by birdie_man
There we go. If it works then do it...
Now that's an unreasonable oversimplification, Birdie.
Your final quote as I would restate it:
A brilliant man spends 42 years writing a book on golf.
He uses the laws of physics and geometry to develop a machine concept.
He catalogs the human movements to match the machine, not vice versa.
His research IS NOT based on "if it works", it's based on law.
Therefore, if the laws of physics and geometry work for you, then use them.
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No I didn't agree. That is beside the point tho IMO. The point that I think is most important is that we should be allowed to question anyone....even Homer.
And no not just for the sake of doing it or for any agenda....you all know I am a TGM guy....
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He has earned enough trust and respect through his research to deserve my trust. When I find something that he has suggested that doesn't work, my trust in his words may wane. But, until then...
Fair enough.
If it works in your teaching that is the point that I'd respect above the others.
EDIT: I initially read your response too fast and missed part of the point...I edited this part of my post accordingly.
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Now that's an unreasonable oversimplification, Birdie.
Your final quote as I would restate it:
A brilliant man spends 42 years writing a book on golf.
He uses the laws of physics and geometry to develop a machine concept.
He catalogs the human movements to match the machine, not vice versa.
His research IS NOT based on "if it works", it's based on law.
Therefore, if the laws of physics and geometry work for you, then use them.
I disagree....this is part of science.
I dunno what you'd call it....field testing? Something like that.
If you try everything on every kind of person over a great length of time....and find out what works best consistently for the most people.....how is this unreasonable??
That is science.
Then of course you can assign the "WHY does it work?"....
"What works best" is basically the ultimate benchmark in my view.
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I know the "brilliant man/42 years of reasearch" stuff holds a good amount of ground (to some people more than others of course)....I mean.....Homer is a guy who's opinion COUNTS.
But....anyone and anything is questionable....no one is perfect.....and Homer wasn't done researching when he died either.
Would he have come to different conclusions if he lived a few more years? Who knows...
Doesn't matter tho cause there's more than one smart person who has studied or does study the golf swing.
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Another point that I think could be relevant is the amount of time Homer spent on the lesson tee.
I do not know exactly how much but from what I can gather he didn't do a lot of "real world" teaching (relatively speaking)....teaching every different kind of person of every level of play....day in day out in seeing what works most of the time.
I know he taught some...I'm not EXACTLY sure how much...but I know there are people with WAY more experience day in day out every single day trying to get people to play better golf.
We gonna discount that opinion?
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BTW there is LAW in physics and geometry.....and yes Homer did APPLY those concepts (and very well obviously) to his work....
....but to claim that that then makes Homer's work LAW....I know that is a stretch.
i.e. "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." (or however the heck it goes)....
....LAW. (period)
"keep the head precisely between your feet for all shots"....
....law??
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