[12 piece bucket]

You said it best, Bucket -- there are way many more people who don't know the book that can flat out play than do know the book. So what does that tell us? In my opinion, it tells us that there is nothing unique in that book that is necessary for someone to learn how to play good golf. For me, I decided the book was way too much work and very unnessesary for me enjoy the game.

Bucket, I don't know the answer to your question, other than to say I'm convinced that both sides are at fault -- most students don't know how to "learn" and most teachers don't know how to teach.

Yeaaaaaaaaah BUT . . .

There are EVEN MORE PEOPLE who DON'T know the book THAT CAN'T PLAY A LICK than those that don't know but CAN.

So what about them people? The book ain't necessary for those with good instincts . . . but I think those that don't "get it" with or without the book are missing something.

I say it's a mix of PROPER TRANSLATION of the concepts in the book and a study of how people LEARN in general. I think that would be the missing link for the CAN'T DO's.

You gave up on self-study of the book but got help from someone who could effectively TRANSLATE what's in there right?

So wouldn't it be translation and the learning how to learn part?

We have exchanged PM's and you are GOOD PEOPLE man. I don't want people to think you "sold out" or something. I just like to see people get better REGARDLESS of how the get'r done ... books, teachers, gadgets, selling the soul to the devil or whatever!