Bah! Instead of talking about the important points you all are making fun of my English!..
I have bad friends.
Oh stop it! You made a good post. We're just jokin'.
I think Mr. K ambitiously tried to catalog all strokes as well as the principals that govern a truly effective stroke.
I think you and RWH have raised an interesting point . . .
Is TGM the best way to LEARN golf? Most people have never heard of TGM. Most of the elite players in the world probably don't have a clue about TGM or even what they actually do.
So the question is what is the best WAY TO LEARN GOLF? I think we have the BEST information without question with what Mr. K gave us . . . but the question is how to APPLY it . . .
Is TGM the best way to LEARN golf? Most people have never heard of TGM. Most of the elite players in the world probably don't have a clue about TGM or even what they actually do.
So the question is what is the best WAY TO LEARN GOLF? I think we have the BEST information without question with what Mr. K gave us . . . but the question is how to APPLY it . . .
What happened in your experience to change from "nose in book" to "head in game?"
I absolutely LOVE the Machine and I think it has helped me tremendously . . . however I think there is a REASON that some people get it without the book . . . I think that REASON (or whatever it is . . . instincts) is innate in all of us. Some people just LEARN golf more effectively or quicker or something.
There are WAY WAY more people that don't have clue about this stuff that can flat play golf than those that know the book and can actually DO IT.
There are many that succeed in the game INSPITE OF INFERIOR INSTRUCTION than what we have with TGM.
The riddle is WHY IS THAT? What is going on in those peoples' LEARNING process? How do we better access our innate ability to LEARN precise movements required to effectively control the distance and direction of a golf ball?
What happened in your experience to change from "nose in book" to "head in game?"
I absolutely LOVE the Machine and I think it has helped me tremendously . . . however I think there is a REASON that some people get it without the book . . . I think that REASON (or whatever it is . . . instincts) is innate in all of us. Some people just LEARN golf more effectively or quicker or something.
There are WAY WAY more people that don't have clue about this stuff that can flat play golf than those that know the book and can actually DO IT.
There are many that succeed in the game INSPITE OF INFERIOR INSTRUCTION than what we have with TGM.
The riddle is WHY IS THAT? What is going on in those peoples' LEARNING process? How do we better access our innate ability to LEARN precise movements required to effectively control the distance and direction of a golf ball?
You said it best, Bucket -- there are way many more people who don't know the book that can flat out play than do know the book. So what does that tell us? In my opinion, it tells us that there is nothing unique in that book that is necessary for someone to learn how to play good golf. For me, I decided the book was way too much work and very unnessesary for me enjoy the game.
Bucket, I don't know the answer to your question, other than to say I'm convinced that both sides are at fault -- most students don't know how to "learn" and most teachers don't know how to teach.
You said it best, Bucket -- there are way many more people who don't know the book that can flat out play than do know the book. So what does that tell us? In my opinion, it tells us that there is nothing unique in that book that is necessary for someone to learn how to play good golf. For me, I decided the book was way too much work and very unnessesary for me enjoy the game.
Bucket, I don't know the answer to your question, other than to say I'm convinced that both sides are at fault -- most students don't know how to "learn" and most teachers don't know how to teach.
Yeaaaaaaaaah BUT . . .
There are EVEN MORE PEOPLE who DON'T know the book THAT CAN'T PLAY A LICK than those that don't know but CAN.
So what about them people? The book ain't necessary for those with good instincts . . . but I think those that don't "get it" with or without the book are missing something.
I say it's a mix of PROPER TRANSLATION of the concepts in the book and a study of how people LEARN in general. I think that would be the missing link for the CAN'T DO's.
You gave up on self-study of the book but got help from someone who could effectively TRANSLATE what's in there right?
So wouldn't it be translation and the learning how to learn part?
We have exchanged PM's and you are GOOD PEOPLE man. I don't want people to think you "sold out" or something. I just like to see people get better REGARDLESS of how the get'r done ... books, teachers, gadgets, selling the soul to the devil or whatever!
What happened in your experience to change from "nose in book" to "head in game?"
I absolutely LOVE the Machine and I think it has helped me tremendously . . . however I think there is a REASON that some people get it without the book . . . I think that REASON (or whatever it is . . . instincts) is innate in all of us. Some people just LEARN golf more effectively or quicker or something.
There are WAY WAY more people that don't have clue about this stuff that can flat play golf than those that know the book and can actually DO IT.
There are many that succeed in the game INSPITE OF INFERIOR INSTRUCTION than what we have with TGM.
The riddle is WHY IS THAT? What is going on in those peoples' LEARNING process? How do we better access our innate ability to LEARN precise movements required to effectively control the distance and direction of a golf ball?
Ahhhh, the difference between knowing and doing.
Ideally you must develop a near daily program that enables to train to the best of your ability. One thing I don't think people do in golf enough is equate the game to a sport. Its a sport that includes fitness and flexability, rigourous training routines tailored around the specific individual.
It doesn't matter what you know - its how you apply it!
Good golfers generally just experiment and pick up things they know help usually under the guidance of the teacher but they are out there actually practicing and eventually they will get a very good level of play. No one ever got better just by reading a book - even if it is as great as The Golfing machine®.
Ideally you must develop a near daily program that enables to train to the best of your ability. One thing I don't think people do in golf enough is equate the game to a sport. Its a sport that includes fitness and flexability, rigourous training routines tailored around the specific individual.
It doesn't matter what you know - its how you apply it!
Good golfers generally just experiment and pick up things they know help usually under the guidance of the teacher but they are out there actually practicing and eventually they will get a very good level of play. No one ever got better just by reading a book - even if it is as great as The Golfing machine®.
These are excellent good points.
So, is it safe to think that, Any good golfer MUST have the ability to apply Good Common sense and the positive attitude what works and what don't work for them to get in the Hole . Regardless the route and journey to learn to play golf?
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God :God is love.
Latest incubator: Finally appreciate why Hogan wrote 19 pages on GRIP. I bet he could write another 40 pages.
Making a golf swing precisely is simple, but not easy.
Making a golf swing to hit a ball is not simple, nor easy.
Making a golf swing to hit a ball precisely, you know what it is!
Swing, don't hit!
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
Hybrid Mode
